Analyst Meet / AGM     01-Jun-23
Conference Call
Techno Electric & Engineering Company
Expect 3rd party revenue of Rs 1300 crore in FY24



Techno Electric & Engineering Company hosted a conference call on May 30, 2023. In the conference call the company was represented by PP Gupta, CMD.

Key takeaways of the call

Order Intake in FY23 stood at Rs 3300 crore.  Order book as end of March 31, 2023 stood at Rs 3800 crore and additionally it is L1 for orders worth Rs 1215 crore.

TN Winds assets are almost stands sold. Of the total of 111.90 MW of wind assets in TN, the company has signed MOU for sales of 108.9 MW with multiple buyers and of these 108.9 MW about 105.3 MW is sold and assets were transferred to the buyers. Balance 3.6 MW is also sold and pending to be transferred.  This leaves about 4.2 MW of TN Wind assets pending to be sold and these assets are facing some title issues and the company is trying to sort out it soon. Remaining wind assets in other states other than TN was 18 MW in Karnataka. 

Cash and cash equivalent post completion of buyback stands at Rs 1500 crore.

Expect to bag order intake of not less than Rs 4000 crore in FY24.

See strong business growth in FGD, DataCentres and AMI segments. The company is in negotiation with private players for FGD order which the company could not quantify at the moment.

The grid has to be equipped to handle 30% renewable power injection so this comes at an significant investment and opportunity for the company.

Strong power sector reforms with focus on availability and reliability of power.  Total bids in transmission side is estimated to be about Rs 40000 crore  and the company expects to bag significant share of about Rs 3000 crore spread over 3-5 years.  Distribution – major business growth in this segment especially AMI. Expect to get orders worth 1000-1500 crore in next 4-5 year. The company is L1 in one package and executing one project in the state of J&K.   

Capex of the company’s Chennai Data Centre is about Rs 1400 crore @ Rs 45 crore/MW. Civil works order 100% completed. Casting of last floor is expected by July 2023. 50% of long lead items were ordered.

Standalone revenue [including the revenue from execution of Data Centres & Techno AMI Solutions (formerly Jhajjar Power Transmission) at costs] in Q4FY23 was about Rs 450 crore and the company expects  similar level of execution in forth coming quarters with plus/minus 10%. EBITA for the company stood at Rs 38.78 crore. EBIT for EPC stood 39 crore. EBITDA margin misguiding as the company has taken the Datacentres and Techno AMI at cost as per accounting standards, but the third party EBITDA margin in Q4FY23 stood at 12.5%.

Conservatively Rs 1300 crore 3rd party orders execution is expected in FY24. The company will maintain margin of over 12.5-13% in case of EPC business, but the prices of commodity are softening and it is stable the margin may be higher at about 14%.  

The company don’t want to book margin on its own subsidiary works and pay out tax. It want to capitalize assets at subsidiary levels.

In case of FGD orders bagged in last Jun/Jul 2022, the company have not booked any revenue yet and hope 50% of the work will be completed this year and balance next year.

In case of AMI order on hand it will be completed by no latter than Dec 2023. AMI order is an fastrack job to supply 12 lakh meters. 

Data Centre – EPC order 540 crore in case of phase I. Spent about 120 crore balance another 250 crore in next 2 quarters and Rs 150 crore in next third quarter.

Receivables – trust not take more than one year to recover the receivables from Discoms.

Not look to retain any wind assets given the policy changes in power sector in general and renewables. Buying renewable power in open market is more competitive.

The company will double topline and PAT in next 3 years.


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